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Koe no Katachi or Kimi no Na wa?
Koe no Katachi
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Kimi no Na wa
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Feb 17, 2019 5:24 PM
#1
I watched both of these films shortly after their respective releases in 2016, and was moved by both films. I can confidently say that these two productions are my favorite animated films ever, but I love one of them a pretty significant amount more than the other. The best film of the two, for me, is Koe no Katachi. I related with the main character Ishida Shouya on multiple levels. Haunted by a past filled with bad decisions, going through the daily motions of life while carrying depression. Trying to reconcile for those past mistakes, not to try to be forgiven, but just to finally do right by the world. It all felt so real to me. It basically was real, there were no fairy tale aspects to it like some that can be found in Kimi no Na wa, and I'm not stating that as a criticism, but just a different approach I loved about Koe no Katachi. I want to know what your thoughts are. Which one of these two films connected with you more, and why? |
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Feb 17, 2019 5:27 PM
#2
Your Name is the more consistently entertaining and well-made film. Aside from the one plot hole (yes, there is only one), it's immaculately made and way above average in every metric. A Silent Voice has better animation and the bigger feels potential, but hamstrung itself by including too many needless subplots that bogged down its pacing. Also, the emotional gut punch could have and should have hit much harder than it did. |
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Feb 17, 2019 5:27 PM
#3
I liked Koe no Katachi more, owing to having a sister that was nearly deaf as a child, and having struggled with mental illness and suicidal thoughts and such. I've never had an attempt, but I've been close. Seeing those two struggle with the feelings they do just upped it a good bit for me over the more romantic feel of Kimi no Na wa. I enjoyed them both a great deal though. |
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Feb 17, 2019 5:32 PM
#4
I liked A Silent Voice more than Your Name by a long shot, thought isn't exactly right to compare both movies sense they are quite different from each other. Nevertheless i liked the characters in a Silent voice and its story about redemption quite a bit while in Your Name i liked.... its visuals i guess. |
Feb 17, 2019 5:36 PM
#5
It's been a while since I watched both films but I vaguely remember I watched koe no katachi first and a month later your name on an airplane flight I thought your name definitely couldn't hold a candle to koe no katachi because the plot line for your name was pretty confusing and a bit lacking in emotion in comparison to koe no katachi (I cried so much in KNK) Your name's story was pretty weird and I had no attachment to the characters unlike KNK At the time I didn't know that koe no katachi was a popular film because all my friends were like "U NEED TO WATCH YOUR NAME CUZ IT'S SO GOOD" in my opinion KNK is a much better film than your name |
Feb 17, 2019 5:37 PM
#6
captjoe213 said: I liked Koe no Katachi more, owing to having a sister that was nearly deaf as a child, and having struggled with mental illness and suicidal thoughts and such. I've never had an attempt, but I've been close. Seeing those two struggle with the feelings they do just upped it a good bit for me over the more romantic feel of Kimi no Na wa. I enjoyed them both a great deal though. I feel like that ability to relate so much to the struggles of the main character is a big reason many people love it so much, including myself. |
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Feb 17, 2019 5:43 PM
#7
Zelkiiro said: Your Name is the more consistently entertaining and well-made film. Aside from the one plot hole (yes, there is only one), it's immaculately made and way above average in every metric. A Silent Voice has better animation and the bigger feels potential, but hamstrung itself by including too many needless subplots that bogged down its pacing. Also, the emotional gut punch could have and should have hit much harder than it did. The emotional sequences hit like a train for me. I didn't feel like any subplot diversion was harming the narrative, but to each their own. For the plot whole, I'm assuming you're referring to them not checking the dates? I myself didn't notice that the first time around, so I guess they did a pretty good job of deriving attention from that |
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Feb 17, 2019 5:45 PM
#8
DarkSyndicate said: For the plot whole, I'm assuming you're referring to them not checking the dates? I myself didn't notice that the first time around, so I guess they did a pretty good job of deriving attention from that That's the one. I feel like, instead of shoving it under the rug, they should have explicitly drawn attention to it to deepen the mystery. |
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Feb 17, 2019 5:49 PM
#9
Haven't seen Koe No Katachi yet but I'm planning on watching it. But based on my experience with Kimi no na wa, I can't image Koe No Katachi being even worse than Kimi No na wa |
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Feb 17, 2019 5:50 PM
#10
If asked I would say that Koe no Katachi is the better film, but that I enjoyed Kimi no Na wa more. Both movies were fantastic and I've rewatched both of them, even seeing their reruns in theatres. But while both films are great, something about Kimi no Na wa hits me a lot harder than Koe no Katachi. |
Feb 17, 2019 6:17 PM
#11
I watched Your Name and thought it was a good movie. A nice and simple story with great visuals. Like a 7/10. Disagree with all the masterpiece scores it got. A Silent Voice is way better to me. A GREAT movie with a touching story and characters. Loved it. |
Feb 17, 2019 6:21 PM
#12
Both were amazing, but Koe no Katachi connects on a different level. |
Feb 17, 2019 6:22 PM
#13
I really like A Silent Voice better and read the manga afterwards too. It was very touching, although I didn't like some things, the movie was still absolutely amazing. |
Feb 17, 2019 6:26 PM
#14
Something about Koe no Katachi was just difficult for me to get into/relate with. I couldn't even watch it all in one sitting (though I won't deny that it wasn't a fantastic movie from a technical point of view). I've seen Kimi no Na wa at least 5 or 6 times though, and it feels like it flies by in an instant every time I watch it. Guess I'm in the minority, oh well. |
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Feb 17, 2019 6:28 PM
#15
Feb 17, 2019 6:51 PM
#16
Y'know I gotta go see kimi no na wa now. I've seen Koe no Katachi already, but I can't answer this question yet because I haven't seen the other one. |
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Feb 17, 2019 6:57 PM
#17
Greyleaf said: Something about Koe no Katachi was just difficult for me to get into/relate with. I couldn't even watch it all in one sitting (though I won't deny that it wasn't a fantastic movie from a technical point of view). I've seen Kimi no Na wa at least 5 or 6 times though, and it feels like it flies by in an instant every time I watch it. Guess I'm in the minority, oh well. Koe no Katachi definitely does tackle some heavier themes than Kimi no Na wa, which is more a touching love story, so I think I get what you mean. It doesn't do the same things Kimi no Na wa does so well. The depression, suicidal and other emotional themes in Koe no Katachi really make it a different experience and I personally love it so much because of how much I can relate to the things these characters go through. |
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Feb 17, 2019 7:03 PM
#18
Koe no Katachi is a meaningful story about disability, bullying and redemption, the manga is better (movie skipped many plot points), but of course it is far better than rather "stupid" story like Kimi no na Wa ... |
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Feb 17, 2019 7:05 PM
#19
DarkSyndicate said: Greyleaf said: Something about Koe no Katachi was just difficult for me to get into/relate with. I couldn't even watch it all in one sitting (though I won't deny that it wasn't a fantastic movie from a technical point of view). I've seen Kimi no Na wa at least 5 or 6 times though, and it feels like it flies by in an instant every time I watch it. Guess I'm in the minority, oh well. Koe no Katachi definitely does tackle some heavier themes than Kimi no Na wa, which is more a touching love story, so I think I get what you mean. It doesn't do the same things Kimi no Na wa does so well. The depression, suicidal and other emotional themes in Koe no Katachi really make it a different experience and I personally love it so much because of how much I can relate to the things these characters go through. Yeah, I'll be the first to admit I'm a sucker for a sappy love story from time to time, lol. But as I said, I have great respect for Koe no Katachi and the message it delivers, and I feel like it's a very necessary movie for many to see, especially those who are able to relate with the subject matter presented. Just because I couldn't connect with it the same way doesn't make it less great; I just preferred the other movie more. I feel like we're comparing apples to oranges here, though. Lmao xD |
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Feb 17, 2019 7:23 PM
#20
I'd say Koe ni Katachi but only because I haven't seen Kimi no Na wa. |
Feb 17, 2019 9:35 PM
#21
Kimi no na wa is infinitely better in my opinion. With koe no katachi I could not figure out the purpose of it. Like why? so it's about a mute girl that gets treated like shit, and continues to get treated like shit to the point she develops stockholm syndrome. Like where is the empowerment? where is the moment she says fuck everyone and makes herself happy instead of doing it for other people. It's just weird, I didn't like it at all. Kimi no na wa was pretty good, it was interesting and completed what it set out to do. It was a nice romantic anime, and visually amazing. Not much else to say about it, I had fun with it. |
Feb 17, 2019 10:31 PM
#22
i personally liked kimi no na wa better, just due to the overall fantasy element and connection behind it. koe no katachi was more realistic with the style and approach it went to, but there was something about it that didn't hit me as hard as kimi no na wa did. i dont fully know if it's due to the disability part that i can't relate to, and i couldn't relate. both are on pretty equal stands for me, but i'd choose kimi no na wa if it came down to it. |
Feb 17, 2019 10:43 PM
#24
Both are romance, but Koe no Katachi has a deeper meaning and more likeable cast (at least to me) and it deals with bullying which is something most of us can relate to. So I'll have to go with Koe no Katachi this time. -Senpapi said: Kimi no na wa is infinitely better in my opinion. With koe no katachi I could not figure out the purpose of it. Like why? so it's about a mute girl that gets treated like shit, and continues to get treated like shit to the point she develops stockholm syndrome. Like where is the empowerment? where is the moment she says fuck everyone and makes herself happy instead of doing it for other people. It's just weird, I didn't like it at all. It's because Shoko didn't go all dark and starts shitting on everyone and doesn't give a fuck like Naofumi that's what makes it good. |
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Feb 18, 2019 1:28 AM
#25
I liked Koe no Katachi more because the girl was deaf which caused more problems with her friends, and because of the two suicide attempts. I also liked the ending because it made my heart jump. |
Feb 18, 2019 2:07 AM
#26
None, they were both cliche crap, although Koe No Katachi made me roll my eyes less |
Feb 18, 2019 2:11 AM
#27
They're not similar so I don't know why I should compare them +1 post in this thread before get locked |
Feb 18, 2019 2:24 AM
#28
Koe no Katachi was a mess. I have absolutely no idea what the fuck was going on until I rewatched it. In my memory, the story was about an ex-bully bearing guilt from his childhood. And this deaf girl was "traumatized" due to him. So they set out on this journey of redemption, but everybody involved are dickheads. The deaf girl's mom's a violent widow, Ueno is a machine of destruction, blonde bitch is a blonde bitch. The friends all gathered to have a huge dick fest. It was only then our MC realized, oh they're all fucking dickheads, what is this redemption shit?! Fuck it! Fuck you all! And everything fell apart. Big despair. Both MCs sad sad. And only after the ultimate suicide and big damages were done, everyone started to freak out and feel at least guilty. HOHOHAHA Kadabingbangboong Everyone stopped being dickheads. Despite knowing his friends were dickheads, MC still opened up and his social anxiety is cured. Absolutely magical. It's like Buddha possessed him. Everything is resolved because you almost killed yourself. Very good message from the film. Next time I have too many dickhead friends, I'll fake a death so they feel sorry and be nice to me. Fuck Koe no Katachi. Thanks. |
Feb 18, 2019 2:28 AM
#29
Koe no katachi is better logically but kimi no na wa is more enjoyable |
Feb 18, 2019 2:29 AM
#30
While I do feel like it’s unfair to compare these shows since they’re fundamentally different, I’d have to say I enjoyed Koe no Katachi(the Silent Voice/the Shape of Voice) more. Perhaps it’s due to the fact that Koe no Katachi is my favourite story among all forms of literature and genres hence the bias, but I feel like the realistic approach and the masterful direction to this movie in particular was absolutely god-tier and phenomenal! I was a little sceptical on how good a ~2hr 10 mins movie adaption would be of the 7 volumes worth of Chapters in the manga counterpart, but I was honestly pleasantly surprised with it. Sure, it doesn’t feel the same but the movie had its merits for which it was exceptional to me. I’ll admit there were a few subplots and a bit of a disconnected middle few minutes but it really set the mood for the climax to kick in right into the feels. Many claim that the Characters were poor and etc but that’s really is just like how real life is, and that’s another special treat from this story imo. Other than this, the other departments, such as the glorious and impactful music, the stunning visuals thanks to KyoAni’s specialty and it was obviously a heck of a ride so very entertaining and some sort of a reality check too(at least for a person like me who can relate to Ishida Shouya on multitude levels), were breathtaking, no doubts whatsoever. Meanwhile, Kimi no Na wa was an expectional movie too with its sting points too but, as a whole, I just feel as though the whole approach between the shows really just made the big difference here. I’ve rated both a 10/10 nevertheless and have already rewatched them ample amount of times, and probably will continue to do so for a long time coming. |
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Feb 18, 2019 2:38 AM
#31
I honestly don't get why people are comparing the two. They are about entirely different things, the only similarity I see is the romance aspect and their release dates. To answer your question, I loved both for entirely different reasons. |
Feb 18, 2019 2:42 AM
#32
For me Kimi no Na wa more enjoyable. Mainly because I don't find It enjoyable to see people getting bullied, It's so inhuman. While Koe no Katachi felt boring at some points Kimi no Na wa never got me that feeling. I Liked both endings and tey are great movies but far to different to compare them... While the story of Koe no Katachi is better I found Kimi no Na wa more Enjoyable. |
Feb 18, 2019 2:48 AM
#33
I've actually always wanted to know this, thank you for posting this poll. Personally I love both these movies, but I'm more partial towards koe no katachi because of the animation and its use of the soundtracks. Especially the balcony scene during the fireworks, and the scene towards the end when all the 'X' fall off really brought me to tears, but Kimi no na wa didin't strike me emotionally on that level. |
Feb 18, 2019 2:50 AM
#34
Both are fine but Kimi no Na wa. wins here. |
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Feb 18, 2019 2:55 AM
#35
Skana said: I honestly don't get why people are comparing the two. They are about entirely different things, the only similarity I see is the romance aspect and their release dates. To answer your question, I loved both for entirely different reasons. I agree. I too loved these two movies and for entirely different reasons. But since they are both very highly rated movies and came out during the same period I (and many like me probably) wanted to know which one people are more "partial" towards (not necessarily "liked" more). I was actually kinda sad initially that the talk of the year in 2016 was Your Name, and it completely overshadowed Koe no Katachi. But I'm glad Koe no Katachi soon got some attention and more people were able to experience this movie. |
Feb 18, 2019 2:57 AM
#36
Koe no Katachi hands down. Kimi no Na wa had an interesting concept, but the overall conclusion seemed pretty 'meh' to me, and I never had any emotional attachment to the characters. They were way too simple for my liking. Koe no Katachi had a lot better character development, and as others said, a more meaningful plot. |
Feb 18, 2019 3:11 AM
#37
Honestly, for a blockbuster scale, Kimi no Na wa deserves to win. Like, it was constructed in a beautiful way that audiences would experience a wonderful ride, and literally fall in love with it. Although not bringing up the best plot on the table, Kimi no Na wa has become an instant like for me. I understand about the plot hole (they probably realized that after the production was finished but they be like "chill, this is already way too good". On the other hand, Koe no Katachi deserves a honor for bringing up a sensitive topic, something that mainstream anime wouldn't do. The overall quality is nice, and I believe that KyoAni is very careful while converting the original material into an animation. There's nothing wrong with the movie (altho some might find it a little bit boring), but for me the experience while watching Kimi no Na wa vs watching Koe no Katachi is a bit different. In Koe no Katachi, we slowly learn about the characters and their struggle, while Kimi no Na wa is like spamming all good things a director would do to make an awesome movie (soundtracks, animations, environment details, etc). |
Feb 18, 2019 3:22 AM
#38
Never watched both of those but aren't you guys comparing apples or oranges? Aren't those quite different like trying to achieve different goals? |
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Feb 18, 2019 3:23 AM
#39
One is a sappy sci-fi romance tale with some really great visuals, while the contents of the other almost made me throw up my innards. Should be obvious who's the winner here. Now it's gotta be said that while I watched neither movie, I read the KnK manga when that spread like wildfire, well... part of it. I couldn't get past a certain point and just ragequit for a while. It disgusted me. I don't get how it got a movie adaptation or even why it's this popular, and for my own sanity it's better if I never find out. |
Feb 18, 2019 3:49 AM
#40
I couldn't understand or relate to any character in Koe no Katachi. The first half was excellent. But the second half felt out of place. I felt like Nishimiya had no personality and was used only as a plot device - kind of like how Minori from guilty crown is used. Now I only remember the main two characters. Others were somehow not memorable. |
Feb 18, 2019 3:55 AM
#41
Feb 18, 2019 4:15 AM
#42
Koe no Katachi is by far better then Kimi no nawa for me. I can relate to Ishida in alot of aspects, and visuals and story was more likeable. + I liked that it was realistic. Kimi no nawa was boring ass romance anime with fantasy aspects in it. Art was good, everything else in that movie was just decent, Saw 0 reasons too give that movie even 7. But that's just me, I prefer drama over romance, cuz romance are the ones that just end up being boring if there's no interesting twists in it. |
Feb 18, 2019 4:24 AM
#43
That's an easy Koe no Katachi. It had more substance, more emotional impact, more interesting and likable characters, a more gripping narrative. It was just a great movie all around, while Your Name was just okay as a generic feels anime that complicates things with the supernatural stuff which only made it less relatable and more removed from reality, which really isn't a good thing when it comes to trying to depict emotional stories and their impact. Those profit from making the characters and their struggles feel real, and in Your Name they felt surreal, not real. Koe no Katachi just felt like a 'real' story while Your Name felt like some constructed, idealized fantasy story that only stood out in terms of visuals. |
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Feb 18, 2019 4:35 AM
#44
I voted for Kimi no Na wa. It's very flawed, but is still a great watch. Koe no Katachi suffers from being an adaptation of a manga and because of this a lot of characters get very little time to develop. I didn't care about any of their problems. It doesn't help that most of them are unlikable. Both movies are still 8/10's for me though. |
Feb 18, 2019 4:48 AM
#45
A silent voice is way better .The only probleme i had with it was the red haired dude since he felt irrelevent . |
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Feb 18, 2019 4:52 AM
#46
Kimi no Na wa captivated me more, with it's complex story, and breathtaking visuals, but Koe No Katachi is also an amazing movie. <3 |
Feb 18, 2019 4:55 AM
#47
i still haven't seen Koe no Katachi and i keep putting it off because i don't want to be chained to the feels train xD |
Feb 18, 2019 5:30 AM
#48
Drovac said: ttcchen said: Both are romance, but Koe no Katachi has a deeper meaning and more likeable cast (at least to me) and it deals with bullying which is something most of us can relate to. So I'll have to go with Koe no Katachi this time. -Senpapi said: Kimi no na wa is infinitely better in my opinion. With koe no katachi I could not figure out the purpose of it. Like why? so it's about a mute girl that gets treated like shit, and continues to get treated like shit to the point she develops stockholm syndrome. Like where is the empowerment? where is the moment she says fuck everyone and makes herself happy instead of doing it for other people. It's just weird, I didn't like it at all. It's because Shoko didn't go all dark and starts shitting on everyone and doesn't give a fuck like Naofumi that's what makes it good. Koe no Katachi is not a romance at all it is friendship and romance 30 character |
Feb 18, 2019 8:08 AM
#49
" Your name " I seriously cry like a bit*h when I saw this movie. And in the ending scene I was literally screaming " you know each other turn around please " 😂. |
Feb 18, 2019 8:46 AM
#50
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